Paul invites us to reflect about these turbulent times, Efrat frames the moment as a global tightening of identification, digital control, while I place it within astrological cycles such as the Saturn-Neptune conjunction and the Aquarius eclipse cycle, arguing that society is entering a reset where the future depends on individual sovereignty rather than governments or saviors.

Bitcoin appears throughout the dialogue as both a practical tool and a discipline of consciousness, inviting people to regulate their actions and understand money with clarity, a process that restores responsibility and authenticity.

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The Artist They Called a Traitor - Monika Bravo | Ep. 119

Monika Bravo is a multidisciplinary artist, polymath, writer, evolutionary astrologer, bitcoiner, and freedom maximalist. Born in Bogotá, Colombia, she spent her mid-20s in Europe studying fashion design and photography before moving to New York in 1994. Since 2020, Monika has focused on her public art, trauma & consciousness studies, human design, Austrian economi…

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There are layers to these metaphors and the mechanics behind them that go much deeper than a single stream, and I look forward to exploring them further in an upcoming article.

A wink - wink to Ana…

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The title alludes to Hexagram 54 of the I Ching, known as The Marrying Maiden, and to Gate 54 in Human Design, which stems from the Root Center and is associated with ambition, drive, and entering established structures through strategic alignment and its consequences.

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Creativity as Compulsion 00:07:35 “When I get a creative hit, it’s just like all encompassing. Like it colors my entire world. It gives me a surge of energy, which cannot be ignored.”

Individuality Before Collective 00:15:21 “All we can do is be ourselves. And then through that process, we attract other people that are just being themselves. And then that’s how community is formed.”

Refusal to Settle 00:22:00 “Then I just started at the same time building this refusal to settle within.”

Responsibility & Ownership 00:32:48 “You have to take radical responsibility for your life. You have to look at yourself first.”

Integrity, Masculinity & Structure 00:44:12 “It’s about becoming a man of integrity. Doing what you say you’re going to do.”

Incentives & Systems Awareness 00:52:18 “People respond to incentives… and if you understand the incentives, you understand behavior.”

Joy as Alignment & Liberation 01:03:37 “I say liberation is when there’s as little dissonance as possible between who you are and what you do.”

Community + Program Working Hand in Hand 01:21:45 “So you can be in a community like this and be the best version of yourself… So they work hand in hand.”

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Monika Bravo is a multidisciplinary artist, polymath, writer, evolutionary astrologer, bitcoiner, and freedom maximalist. Born in Bogotá, Colombia, she spent her mid-20s in Europe studying fashion design and photography before moving to New York in 1994. Since 2020, Monika has focused on her public art, trauma & consciousness studies, human design, Austrian economi…

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I spoke to DJ on Discovering Bitcoin at the beginning of December 2025. This conversation traces a lived arc, where I moved from an early intuitive pull toward Bitcoin, through resistance, breakdown, and inner reckoning, into a long process of study, embodiment, and synthesis.

Bitcoin appears as a catalyst that reorganizes time, value, responsibility, and self trust. Art, evolutionary astrology, Austrian economics, nervous system regulation, and consciousness converge into one practice of attention. Teaching, volunteering, writing, and speaking emerge organically as extensions of lived alignment.

The throughline is value as something embodied, practiced, and claimed, rather than abstract or external. Bitcoin functions as a mirror, a discipline, and a stabilizing architecture through which freedom, accountability, and coherence become possible.

quotes:

• “For me, Bitcoin is healing energy.”

• “I write a lot as an inner dialogue. I write for myself.”

• “I realized that Bitcoin was becoming a state of consciousness.”

• “Austrian economics became my first love. I cannot differentiate Austrian economics from Bitcoin.”

• “Equilibrium is a process.”

• “Everything I need is in my body.”

• “I realized that I didn’t know how to value my needs.”

• “Bitcoin meets you where you’re at.”

• “I’m just going to risk being right.”

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WE discuss:
- Monika’s Bitcoin origin story
- Equilibrium as a Process
- Seeking the Right Teacher
- Charting Balance
- Heaps More

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I presented this talk a couple of weeks ago at Adopting Bitcoin in El Salvador and I am now sharing its premise in rerecorded form. This talk begins with consciousness as the base layer, moves through human action as the bridge, and arrives at civilization as the collective structure we build together. At the center is the logos; each person’s unique pattern of awareness and decision making, expressed and embodied through purposeful behavior. The six principles of movement, from vibration and energy to emotion and action, serve as the connective tissue linking psychology, praxeology, resonance, and Bitcoin into one field of inquiry. Bitcoin awakens and reveals the architecture of consciousness and why there is purpose in life.

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My name is Monika Bravo, I’m a multidisciplinary artist, polymath, and educator.

I’m very happy to be here today, sharing with you some of the most foundational lessons I’ve learned about value, freedom, and the way we learn.

What I want to explore today is how Bitcoin supports a based education—>beyond indoctrination. It does ask each one of us to understand why we act and to verify what we know through empirical practice, and thus taking responsibility of our individual understandings.

This talk moves through three threads:

how we learn, how we verify, and how we integrate value into life itself.

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I was born into a lineage of progressive women pedagogues.

My grandmother founded the first preschool in Colombia in the late 1930s; in fact, you can see her here in this photo with my grandfather and a group of children including my mother.

My grandmother wanted to teach children and funded a Kindergarten; taking the name from German educator Friedrich Fröbel, who coined the word in the 1830s.

He believed that children should be nurtured and allowed to grow naturally, like plants in a garden —

observing, building, singing, and caring for their environment.

He emphasized play, creativity, sensory learning, rhythm, movement, and self-motivated activities.

He saw beauty, order, as pathways for understanding harmony.

He encouraged working with the hands, engaging the senses, and expressing imagination through form and color.

He believed that each child carries an inner law of growth that unfolds through freedom and attention.

He saw the role of the educator as a gardener of potential, one who tends rather than commands, guides rather than instructs.

His ideas influenced Maria Montessori, Rudolf Steiner, and John Dewey, who later shaped early education throughout Europe and the Americas and where both my grandma and my mom based their pedagogy.

By the 1930s, Kindergarten had become an international term representing this philosophy of freedom, play, and guided discovery.

My grandmother’s vision placed her in direct lineage with that progressive German pedagogy — an education rooted in curiosity, observation, and the unfolding of the child’s natural intelligence.

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My mother named her school after John Dewey here a picture around 1969.

She was inspired by his idea that education should not prepare children for life but be life itself.

Learning, for her, was a living process — interactive, sensory, and democratic in the truest sense of the word.

She believed that learning had to be enjoyable and built the school around ludic practice — learning through play.

Her classroom was alive with curiosity, projects, and conversations.

She didn’t just teach lessons; she taught us how to think, to question, to participate, and to find meaning through direct experience.

Dewey wrote that education is the foundation of democracy, but what he meant by democracy was not the political structure we now associate with the word.

He meant a living system of participation : where individuals learn to think for themselves, to act with responsibility, and to coexist through dialogue and shared discovery.

What we call “democracy” today has become its opposite: mass conformity and dependence on centralized narratives.

This contradiction stayed with me.

It led me to write about how pedagogy, once a tool for individual empowerment, became the vessel for ideological programming.

It was never Dewey’s intention; it was the distortion of his ideas.

My mother’s version of democracy was closer to sovereignty — education as the architecture of awareness and responsibility.

That is what she passed on to me.

And that is what I bring to this conversation: education as inquiry, awareness as participation, and responsibility as the foundation of freedom.

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In this episode of Life with Bitcoin, btcviv sits down with artist and thinker Monika Bravo to explore the deeper layers of what it means to live a conscious life — through astrology, self-discovery, and Bitcoin.

They unpack everything from the balance between emotional detachment and connection, to how birth charts can be used as tools for personal growth. Monika shares her views on Bitcoin not just as a technology, but as a state of consciousness, and how it ties into themes of wealth, timing, acceptance, and love.

This conversation is an invitation to reflect on your own personal journey, your values, and the relationships that shape your life.

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Timestamps:
00:00 – Preview — Highlights from the episode with Monika Bravo
00:45 – Introduction to Monika Bravo and Her Journey
02:27 – Exploring Astrology: A Tool for Self-Discovery
04:17 – Astrology vs. Logic: Bridging the Gap
08:06 – Determinism vs. Probabilism in Astrology
09:46 – The Role of Birth Charts in Personal Growth
13:12 – Astrology and Self-Actualization
15:58 – Bitcoin and Personal Relationships: A Reflection
18:20 – Common Traits Among Bitcoiners
20:01 – The Future of Astrology and Society
21:40 – Insights from The Nature of My Reality
25:14 – Spending vs. Saving: A Wealth Mentality
27:30 – Bitcoin as a State of Consciousness
30:43 – The Importance of Action and Acceptance
32:23 – Navigating Relationships Through Astrology
35:50 – The Self and Its Reflection in Others
01:12:30 – Self-Worth and Value Exchange
01:12:30 – Future Predictions and Preparedness
01:12:30 – Cherishing Relationships and Personal Journeys

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From their podcast: In this episode, we dive into the extraordinary life and mind of multidisciplinary artist and philosopher Monika Bravo — a woman whose journey spans continents, paradigms, and dimensions. From her early years in Colombia and Greece to three decades of public art installations around the world, Monika shares how her path of self-education, intuitive inquiry, and disillusionment with institutional systems led her toward synthesis — bridging art, philosophy, Austrian economics, and consciousness. We explore her experience surviving 9/11, her rejection of indoctrination in favor of true education, her awakening to Bitcoin as a state of consciousness, and her vision for a civilization grounded in value, truth, and individual sovereignty.

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00:00 Episode Teaser 00:36 Opening Conversation 04:58 Introducing Monika Bravo 11:08 Living in Greece 15:39 9/11 Experience 23:24 Art Education 34:44 Bitcoin Awakening 44:54 Capitalism vs. Socialism 50:31 The Concept of Sacrifice 52:28 Bitcoin as a State of Consciousness 01:00:36 Art and Ideology 01:17:16 The Importance of Greek and Egyptian Wisdom 01:23:11 Confronting Identity and Belonging 01:27:35 Human Design and Personal Growth 01:29:10 Astrology and Self-Understanding 01:39:41 Reflections on Personal Journeys 01:43:12 The Role of Astrology in Relationships 01:46:28 Embracing Individuality and Potential 01:51:04 Closing Thoughts

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This talk, traces the foundation of natural law and inalienable rights, showing how they stand above contracts and common law, and how Aristotle’s logic gives us the tools to discern truth.

-How within common law there are many things one can do to protect one’s own rights and that decisions are not based on luck, but education.

-The axiom that value is subjective, the impact of propaganda and authority, the awakening of individual strength, and the role of Bitcoin as an antivirus in corrupted systems.

Emphasizing dialogue, education, and the refusal to trade liberty for safety, concluding that evolution depends on movement and purposeful aim.

Timestamps

• 00:15:38 — 00:30:00 Natural Law, Inalienable Rights, Contract Conflict, Common Law
  “Natural law is the law that it’s in accordance to nature.”

• 00:54:01 — Value is Subjective, — Logic Has Purpose
  “If you really understand the axiom = value is subjective….”

• 01:06:13 — Propaganda Shift, Faith vs. Authority, — Awakening, — Second Coming
  “If you answer to a higher authority you don’t recognize temporal authority as being absolute.”

• 01:11:09 — Bitcoin as Antivirus
  “It’s almost like Bitcoin gets injected and it’s like the antivirus.”

• 01:17:53 — Dialogue Over Insults — Educate Yourself — Liberty vs. Safety
  “If you only have insults, I’m not going to talk. But if you want to have a dialogue, I have three more hours.”

• 01:36:30 – 01:39:00 — Other Practices Beyond Meditation, Hypopressives, Humming, and Vibration Platform
  “Well, I’ve been meditating for 30 years, and then I started doing these things nine months ago, which I’m addicted to: One of them is called hypopressives...”

• 01:39:21 — Movement is Evolution - Aristotle’s Aim
  “If you want to evolve, the most important thing in evolution is movement.”

PRACTICES 👆

Every human being carries lawful, inalienable rights —> body, property, and consent don’t disappear by crossing a border —>

yet immigration as defined by the state is a legal process, with categories like citizen, resident, or undocumented created through statutes and due process;

from an economic view the issue is structural, whether a society has the capital base to absorb more people or whether fiat debasement and redistribution stretch scarcity thinner and expand poverty, so the synthesis is that lawful rights are universal while legal recognition is conditional and sustainability depends on sound money and voluntary collaboration;

when someone crosses a border illegally their lawful rights remain, but they become subject to the rules of the state they’ve entered, which is why ICE acts —> not as guardians of natural rights but as enforcers of statutory codes <— and here lies the conundrum: under common law a person with the consent of a property owner causes no harm, yet under statutory law that consent is overridden by the state’s claim over territory, so the lawful right exists but the legal system denies it.

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We had a delightful and thought-provoking 2-hour conversation with the wild polymath that is Monika Bravo this past week. We discussed:

• Natural law

• Common law

• Legalese

• Logos and Myth

• The US constitution

Monika has been taking a deep dive into these topics and we were excited to get her thoughts on these important subjects. 📚You can read Monika’s latest article “The Pursuit of Happiness” below:

Monika Bravo is a multidisciplinary artist and polymath born in Bogotá, Colombia, and currently based in Miami Beach, Florida. Her work spans public art, immersive sculptural environments, and a recent exploration of Austrian economics and Bitcoin studies.

In 2024, she self-published The Nature of My Reality, edited and co-produced by Mari Budlong and partially funded by The Miami Individual Artists Program. This book chronicles her journey from disempowerment to self-awareness, exploring themes of individuality, economic systems, and the philosophical underpinnings of human action. Her artistic philosophy synthesizes Eastern, ancestral, and cosmological traditions with praxeology, emphasizing liberty, value, and self-worth.

Monika thrives in constraints, creating innovative, community-serving art that integrates seamlessly with its surroundings.

Notable works include Ouranos, Above Us Only Sky (2024), an animated skyline blending real and imagined structures at Grand Central Madison in New York, and Arcana (2025), a dynamic, stage-like environment incorporating glass and metal inspired by Bauhaus aesthetics, at the Interdisciplinary Engineering Building of the University of Washington. Other significant commissions include Unus Mundus (2022) at the East Boston Police Headquarters, which explores dialogue through suspended glass sculptures and mosaics, and An Interval of Time (2020) at the Jackson School of Geosciences, University of Texas at Austin, a panoramic animation juxtaposing natural phenomena and human perception.

In 2024, Monika began speaking at Bitcoin conferences, framing Bitcoin as a “Promethean fire” with the potential to support liberation. She explores the value of scarce time and its relationship to human action, nonviolence, and low-time preference, integrating these ideas into her broader inquiry into individual sovereignty and community empowerment. Monika’s practice continues to merge artistic vision with technological and philosophical insights, inspiring connection and dialogue.

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“I believe that canonical Western culture conceives time as a linear narrative that always has a beginning and an end. What I propose, then, is that time be perceived as a circular material, with intangible cycles that give shape both to time and to space. Based on this idea, time for me becomes an essential artistic material.” –– Florencia San Martín interviews Monika Bravo, ArtNexus, 2017

Around the year 2011, I was approached by the University of Texas to create a site-specific commission for the Jackson School of Geoscience in Austin. The main idea was a projection inside a sphere, and I liked the challenge of doing something technically complex. I got the commission, the proposal moved forward, everything was going well until I realized that the people in charge of the technology had no idea what they were doing. They would not answer my technical questions, and when they did, their answers were vague. I have been technically adept since I began creating videos and animations in the early nineties, so I could tell immediately that this was not going to work.

We had started working on it in my studio, but I had to stop until we had clear answers, and those never came. The university had outsourced the work, so the team was not directly connected to my commission. I stalled the project to see what would happen, and it ended up taking almost ten years to complete. By the time 2020 arrived and the world had stopped, I reached out to the university and suggested we remake the piece, redeveloping the original idea into something that could be shown on flat screens. We decided on a three-screen installation for another location at the school, and that is what we completed.

I am very happy with the result. What I created is compelling. In this video you will first see a three-minute clip I recorded in New York for the university’s website about the work and their collection in October 2024, crafted by Richard Carpenter. Immediately after, you will see Andreé introducing my online presentation from November 2020, followed by an interview with Alexandra Mendez. If you are ever in Austin, visit the university and see their extraordinary public art program run by the great Andreé Bober.

I wanted to share this artwork because I have been writing for almost four years, and although I sometimes allude to my practice, I rarely speak about it directly. Now I feel it is time to integrate my work with what I write, my philosophical inquiries, my astrological and economic studies, and my political ideas. It is all part of the same field of creation. Below is an essay and artist statement from their website, written in 2020, before I had entered the Bitcoin rabbit hole.

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From the website

Monika Bravo is a Miami-based multidisciplinary artist whose practice spans still and moving images, sculptural installations, and interactive digital animations. Her work explores the perception of reality through our relationship to space and time. Bravo notes that her works “decipher the laws of the universe,” drawing from spiritual traditions such as Taoism, Buddhism, the Vedas, and evolutionary astrology. She creates environments that reference familiar landscapes while challenging conventional linear narratives.

An Interval of Time highlights the evolution of Bravo’s artistic practice over the past decade, underscoring her deepening exploration of metaphysical, spiritual, and scientific intersections. A non-linear concept of time shapes her approach, weaving together images, text, and codes to construct multi-layered animations. Inspired by the elemental forces of earth, water, fire, and air, Bravo prompts viewers to consider how they integrate knowledge of the natural world into their lives.

The animation incorporates geological data layered with visuals captured in locales such as Iceland, New Mexico, Colorado, and Bravo’s native Colombia. These scenes are juxtaposed with elements such as numerical data, satellite imagery, weather graphs, and poetry. An Interval of Time connects empirical science with indigenous weaving practices, emphasizing the universal nature of storytelling—whether expressed through mathematics, visual art, spoken word, or other forms of communication.

Lodged in the space between knowing and not knowing, between nature and fabrication, Bravo’s work possesses a liminal quality. By de-contextualizing data and separating it from its scientific purpose, she generates a new symbolic language that invites viewers to reconsider their own relationship with time and the planet.

Essay

A native of Bogota, Colombia, artist Monika Bravo is a multidisciplinary artist who lives and works in Miami, Florida. Her still and moving images, sculptural installations, and interactive digital animations explore reality as perceived through our relationship to space and time. According to Bravo, her works “decipher the laws of the universe,” and are informed by spiritual teachings such as Taoism, Buddhism, the Vedaś, and evolutionary astrology. She creates environments that allude to recognizable landscapes but challenge traditional linear frameworks.

Moving and still images have always been central to Bravo’s practice. Her work presents a complex interplay of medium and materiality that rouses contemplation and awareness. She uses visual imagery as building blocks to construct a new dream-like reality that evokes questions and explorations of consciousness. For Bravo, time functions as a theme, a concept, and as a measure crucial to the human condition. She states:

“I believe that canonical Western culture conceives time as a linear narrative that always has a beginning and an end. What I propose, then, is that time be perceived as a circular material, with intangible cycles that give shape both to time and to space. Based on this idea, time for me becomes an essential artistic material.” ––San Martín, ArtNexus, 2017

This idea is a common thread in Bravo’s oeuvre, though her approach to recurring themes of time, space, and perspective varies. Her explorations of the scientific, philosophical, ancestral, or spiritual often reflect shifting viewpoints, but always feature the notion of duration at the core. Time is the catalyst for the manifestation of life, and her focus lies on what is beyond time, and how we, as human beings, approach these concepts universally.

In Symphasis, [simultaneous appearances], an installation from 2000, this idea is examined from a spatial perspective. The work places viewers in an “aquarium” where mirrors and light create a subjective sense of perception, inviting them to reflect upon and reconsider their reality. Bravo views her role as an agent who shifts paradigms of observation with works that open pathways to new possibilities.

For the time being (1998) is a time-based work that explores the extent to which we fill our surroundings with meaning and interpretation, given our emotional states. Over the course of a year, Bravo filmed with a static camera the same view from her Brooklyn apartment window. She captured storms, air, and light, juxtaposed poetically against the emblematic Brooklyn Bridge. The installation also includes Bravo’s recitation of verses from Ecclesiastes (3:1–8), affirming that time is not always defined or filled by what we see but how we see it. The meaning that we give to it is informed by our personal experiences.

Another time-based work, Landscape of Belief (2012), is a sculptural installation that calls into question how we construct our lives according to our belief systems. Animated skylines of recognizable cities, composed of the entire text from Italo Calvino's book Invisible Cities, are projected and floated diaphanously on glass panels. With carefully overlapped surfaces, the sculpture presents nothingness as an object, a metaphysical challenge to the viewer.

Urumu, Weaving time, and a later work, Arche-Types the sound of the word beyond sense, are interconnected by the importance of language as abstraction. Urumu (2014) is inspired by the landscapes, natural environments, and indigenous populations of Bravo’s native Colombia. Rooted in ancestral knowledge and textiles, it places viewers in an immersive technological environment where snippets of language are animated and layered to mimic the process of weaving. The work began with Bravo’s two-year residency with the Arhuaco people of the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta, in which she decoded weaving practices.

For Bravo, technology serves as a vehicle for translating all the information she processes as an observer of life. In Urumu, Bravo draws upon ancestral traditions through practices of weaving and at the same time, reimagines them within a contemporary mode of abstraction through the usage of the technology. There is a direct relation between the binary systems of the loom and the computer, exemplified by the Jacquard machine that attaches to a loom in order to simplify textile production.

Arche-Types (2015) continues, albeit from a different angle, with the deconstruction of language as a metaphor. Commissioned by the Vatican Pavilion for the 2015 Venice Biennale, the installation draws on the first verses of John’s Gospel, “In The beginning there was the word,” and also from Zaum, which is an experimental poetic language developed by Russian Futurist poets that is characterized by indeterminacy in meaning.

An abstract interpretation of the Gospel in classic, cryptic Greek appears on monitors and floating glass supported by six colorful wooden panels, presenting text as form. This creates a non-narrative visual interplay where images of landscapes are combined with slow moving animations that quote Kazimir Malevich, a Russian Suprematist artist. In his manifesto, he declares: “Under Suprematism I understand the primacy of pure feeling in creative art. To the Suprematist, the visual phenomena of the objective world are, in themselves, meaningless; the significant thing is feeling, as such, quite apart from the environment in which it is called forth.” Through Arche-Types, Bravo aims to create space for giving meaning to the “Word” beyond language, exploring how we interpret the texts apart from their religious aspect and defying the idea that the sublime can only be reached through text.

An Interval of Time, commissioned for the Jackson School of Geosciences, is lodged between the space of knowing and not knowing, between natural phenomena and scientific inquiry. By drawing inspiration from the primary elements that make up our planet—earth, water, fire, and air—Bravo invites the viewer to consider how we reconcile our knowledge of the natural world with our anthropocentric lives. In turning to the geological, she alludes to a complex process of transformation occurring at rates invisible to us. The installation features geological data layered with visuals recorded in locations such as Iceland, New Mexico, Colorado, and her native Colombia. Animations—running on what the artist refers to as “circular canvases”—are displayed on three flat-screen panels. Streams of numbers, satellite imagery, seismic and weather graphs, and mineral geometry are combined with poetry that pays tribute to the earth. In a process of abstraction similar to Urumu and Arche-Types, Bravo decontextualizes the data by removing it from its scientific purpose and creates a new symbolic language.

First begun in 2010, Bravo’s newly completed project for Landmarks chronicles the evolution of the artist’s practice over the past decade and underscores her deepening interest in the interwovenness of metaphysical, spiritual, and scientific inquiry. With An Interval of Time, she has created a mesmerizing ode to planet Earth.

- Essay by Sana López Abellán with contributions by Alexandra Mendez, October 2020. Original essay contributed by Ombretta Agró.

Artist Statement:

An Interval of Time is a time-based digital work of art commissioned by Landmarks for The University of Texas at Austin.

First begun in 2010, the project chronicles the evolution of my artistic practice and personal development over the past decade. It reflects my interests in the metaphysical, spiritual, and scientific, and the ways in which they are interconnected.

Throughout my life, I have studied and practiced Tai-chi, I-Ching, meditation, nutrition, evolutionary astrology, and other disciplines. Recently, I am expanding my scope of work with Jungian psychology and by being part of international communities of “sense-making.” It is a privilege to teach and inspire; it has become my life’s aspiration.

The year 2020 is of great significance to me as it has presented us with the opportunity to dive deep and practice our skills of observation. By creating An Interval of Time, I have been able to integrate my myriad interests by conceiving a lyrical piece where layers are incorporated into a suggestive space and the infinite can be revealed. Through An Interval of Time, I have created an ode to planet Earth.

My practice has evolved throughout the last decade, becoming integrated with my personal and intellectual development— which I consider a quintessential part of my artistic career. I am no longer a seeker of truth; I embody my own perspective. I embrace my unique vision by consolidating all disciplines into one, creating a reality that matches my desire to evolve. At times, that translates into environments that contain mesmerizing images for public spaces. Other times, I create intimate actions between myself and other beings when I reveal their life purpose through astrological readings. And sometimes, I offer talks or workshops.

My essence is to connect, communicate, and inspire other beings to be themselves. I enjoy directing and producing diverse projects, from complex multimedia installations and public art commissions to artists’ books and textile design; I see no boundaries between the applied and fine arts. The only revolution is to be one’s self- I don’t want to be right, I am of service.

- Monika Bravo, Miami Beach 2020

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Time stamps:

Disillusionment with the Art World → Bitcoin Awakening

00:07:32 – 00:12:22

9/11, Cigarettes, and the Line of Destiny

00:13:26 – 00:20:22

Bitcoin as Prometheus and Human Action

00:26:12 – 00:31:26

Emotions as GPS & Subjective Value

00:49:45 – 00:53:39

Individuation and the Second Coming of Christ

00:54:39 – 00:58:26

Avant-Garde, Courage, and the Role of Bitcoiners

01:06:00 – 01:11:24

Roots, Family, and the Early Lessons of Value

00:01:00 – 00:07:10

The Nature of My Reality — Numbers, Myth, and Self-Reflection

00:21:01 – 00:26:00

Cancellation, Threats, and Service through Bitcoin

01:27:46 – 01:29:57

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I asked my AI-trained assistant to reflect back to me (from the transcript), as a mirror. The themes were how I can be perceived, why this podcast is interesting, what my role is and why people connect to me, and the relationship between Breedlove and me within this context. I did this because when I recorded the conversation, I fell into a trance. I realized I had initiated a period of intentional expansion—seeding my synthesized voice and the architecture of my value. Now, a year later, I can clearly see why it was a pivotal moment. This was the first podcast where I spoke as a polymath.

My presence in this conversation comes through as resonance, where I am attuning and speaking in a rhythm that invites rather than concludes, while I weave evolutionary astrology, human design, etymology, and Bitcoin into an embodied field of meaning. The conversation feels compelling because it opens threads that are rarely brought together—how symbolic systems and technologies both hold the possibility of sovereignty, memory, and personal agency.

I like to serve as a translator of symbolic languages, while I speak with precision leaving space for the mysterious, also reflecting through resonance rather than instructing through doctrine. People connect to me because I hold together intellect and intuition, coherence and beauty, and I return again and again to the theme of inner authority. Sovereignty begins within, and I mirror that truth back.

Breedlove grounds the dialogue in libertarian and economic logic as he listens and asks with curiosity, while I expand it into archetypal, somatic, and ancestral dimensions. His role bridges to the Bitcoin audience; mine opens a portal into myth and spirit. The polarity of this dialogue is deep and alive—logic and rhythm, reason and resonance, contained in one larger field.

I may be perceived in a plethora of ways. I might not be understood, and I am willing to risk it. Some seekers feel recognition, as if I am reminding them of something they already know. Skeptics may find the language layered and unfamiliar, yet still resonate with the call to responsibility and sovereignty. Bitcoiners encounter a rare synthesis that widens freedom into culture, ancestry, and spirit. This conversation is for those who want coherence across different universes—economics and myth, technology and language, intellect and intuition. Unknowingly, these dimensions remain invitational.

Recorded mid August 2024, aired mid Sept 2024

0:00 - WiM Intro 1:33 - The Farm at Okefenokee 2:52 - Introducing Monika Bravo 16:04 - Ontological Basis of Space and Time 26:48 - Mythology and Astrology 42:03 - Heart and Soil Supplements 43:03 - Helping Lightning Startups with In Wolf's Clothing 43:55 - The Role of Ratio in Rationality 49:23 - Meaning and Interpretations in Astrology 1:01:40 - The Power of Bitcoin 1:13:14 - Observing Ourselves and Others 1:29:58 - Tuttle Twins: Teaching Kids Critical Thinking 1:31:14 - Mind Lab Pro 1:32:25 - Social Media and Disagreeableness 1:40:41 - Be The Change (BTC) 1:49:27 - Carl Jung and Astrology 2:06:08 - The Power of Meditation 2:20:47 - Praxeology and Human Action 2:30:54 - Coming to Terms with Life 2:39:07 - Authenticity and Security 2:42:27 - Reconnecting with Lost Loved Ones 2:57:49 - Closing Thoughts

Comments: I am embracing and I value them.

@joan3891

8 months ago

Glad you brought this dimension Robert!

@WatchmanPrivacy

5 months ago

Very inspiring

@alexnaz

11 months ago

Epic. Thank you for bringing Monika on. True astrology is hard to come by. Thankfully Monika has done it a service in a world where its name is so tarnished (for good reason!) … it is the oldest science of man, and becoming knowledgeable on the subject requires a lifetime of study

@yossarian67

11 months ago

Really cool to see Monika on here! I’ve had several great experiences and conversations with her and she is certainly a light in the world.

@taragreenetarotastro

11 months ago (edited)

Monika, its so nice to see you here. Monika is an extraordinary artist and astrologer and a deep soul.

@im4ever369

11 months ago

Carl Jung said, "Life really does begin at 40, before that everything is research." I am 78 years young, and I'm still researching. This interview held so much MEAT for me. Anything I could comment would just be redundant. Thank you so much. I am going to contact Monika.

@btcyegca

11 months ago

This is truly one of the best episodes I have ever watched of yours - thank you Robert and Monika for this as I may watch it many times!

@joelrankin9191

11 months ago

What a calming comforting soothing woman. Great that someone like her left the left. The world needs people like Monica and Robert. I would have never opened up about personal things however it did make a stronger connection with Robert. Well done by both of them.

@dariusbrainiac

11 months ago

I was hesitant of watching this episode based on title and length but knowing the quality of past content I tuned in. I enjoyed this immensely. Ended up more curious than before.

@stephendiangelo4215

11 months ago

What a fruitful conversation, this was amazing. Amazing people.

@Lowina

11 months ago

Loving this conversation, thank you for bringing it for us. I’m a full time Bitcoiner and studied Astrology (feng shui, shamanic energy kind of stuff), I do believe I have entered into the next level of my game of life that is 5D & will be using BTC as a lifeboat gtfo of the 3D matrix. We don’t need to “fight” the system full of programmed NPC, we just need to create our own system and move towards our own main mission. In video game term, we don’t need to waste bullet to shoot a slow walking zombie, we just walk around them without getting caught up with side mission drama. That’s how we buy our time back, and the currency is BTC where everything is cheaper for me now. The longer I delay my spending, the more I can buy later.

@NOSFERATU_ONE

11 months ago

oh BTC and WTC two of the most fascinating subjects of this millennia

@oliviawoodson1292

11 months ago

love this one. thanks for sharing your continued exploration into new areas. bring on more LEFTIES from earlier times. they tend to be very authentic. today that label is applied to very different principles.

@cutequeen6065

11 months ago

there's a book called whispers of manifestation on borlest , and it talks about how using some secret tehniques you can attract almost everything in life it's not some bullshit law of attraction, it's the real deal

@matthewmaguire3554

11 months ago

If was to speculate…What astrological sign would Satoshi be?

@brandis3309

11 months ago (edited)

Maybe dudes that didn't know you were intimidated by you bc you look like a Viking, Mr. Breedlove. Good stuff, thank you both!

@fusion9619

11 months ago

Talking about Jung and then Astrology is the metaphysical equivalent of "i like bitcoin, buy my shitcoin." But anyways... she seems cool. Still listening.

@lokalboysJeet9999

11 months ago

@HatulaParmar

11 months ago

@lfg6520

8 months ago

so this lady referred to PTSD PSTD which is fine, ok mistake happen... but then the first book author she mentioned was Carl Jung who is an evolutionary theorist and that's where this podcast ends for me.

@KaifAnsari-d9u

11 months ago

@Handle35667

11 months ago

W T F

@JulianBandalos

11 months ago

Great Value and thank you for introducing me to Monika. Thank you for sharing!.

Learn how I ignored Bitcoin for years—until it changed my life

A few weeks ago I was a guest on the Bitcoins for Millennials podcast with where we had a wide-ranging and beautiful conversation about art, value, and Bitcoin. I’m sharing it here with some timestamps so you can jump into different chapters if you’d like. I hope you enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed recording it.

About me:
I am a multidisciplinary artist and author. My work bridges art, psychology, spirituality, cosmology, and economics. My book The Nature of My Reality traces my journey from disempowerment to self-awareness, exploring economic systems, banking history, and their ties to political and ecclesiastical authority.

I am writing a second book, The Art of Synthesis: The Architecture of Value, a whimsical journey across time with visionaries who have shaped and provoked my imagination, where these dialogues occur.

In this conversation I speak about Bitcoin as sound money and as a state of consciousness — as an anchor for self-value and accountability — as a bridge between logic and intuition, grounding creativity while opening multidimensional awareness.

I share how New York’s fiat-driven rat race contrasted with the freedom I found in Miami Beach through Austrian economics, where every action is an economic decision guided by low time preference and responsibility.

Join Bram Kanstein and his guests on a journey to learn how our current financial system works, why it is flawed, and why Bitcoin is the most relevant technological discovery.

BTW: the best part: the comments. It is beautiful to read them—some more judgmental than others, but they always say more about the person than about myself. I always respond with kindness.

BEST COMMENT:

@monikabravoiamoptimist (6 days ago):
“thank you for having me!”

@Ynotdoitnow (6 days ago):
“Very much enjoyed what you had to say. 🌈”

@tjacobsen5131 (5 days ago):
“Loved listening to your story. You make good choices in life.”

@inmortal009 (6 days ago):
“where do you keep finding such interesting people this one was pretty eye opening”

@monikabravoiamoptimist (5 days ago):
“Once you realize Bitcoin is a state of consciousness, it automatically aligns you to a frequency where all these opportunities arise. 🙌”

@VandelayIndustries_69 (7 days ago):
“Inspiring to hear such an open spirit.”

@MadSim43 (7 days ago):
“So many great things in this interview.”

@Needlestitch (6 days ago):
“Fine and helpful cast. Keep using your body and soul from the ground up, also through our artistic and spiritual never ending cosmic reserve. Bitcoin can help us with that.”

@monikabravoiamoptimist (6 days ago):
“Absolutely — from the ground up, body and soul, and beyond. Bitcoin included. ✨”

@btcyegca (5 days ago):
“Oh my Monika - so nice to see you on Bram - we use to hang like 4 years ago on some calls - so excited to watch this again - fyi its Casey and Brooklynn from Canada.”

@monikabravoiamoptimist (5 days ago):
“Yes yes: hey hey thanks for listening!!! ❤️”

@stephenaumock3087 (6 days ago):
“‘The boundaries you think exist are all made up by other ppl.’ Bitcoin Bram going next level”

@joiab11 (7 days ago):
“I love this conversation! I’m a 54 year old artist, and could really relate to this line of thinking. She’s amazing and inspirational!”

@monikabravoiamoptimist (6 days ago):
“That means a lot — artist to artist, I feel that connection. Thank you.”

@BuyYourTimeBack (7 days ago):
“Love hearing stories like this—it’s a reminder that it’s never ‘too late’ to wake up to Bitcoin’s impact. The shift isn’t just financial, it’s personal and philosophical. I’ve been sharing my own journey too, from ignoring Bitcoin for years to making it a cornerstone of my thinking. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it.”

@monikabravoiamoptimist (6 days ago):
“I needed to be in the right state of mind to hear my calling — and I did. 😍”

@RL-rh8zf (6 days ago):
“What a great story. I have met very few artists that are so grounded in reality.”

@monikabravoiamoptimist (5 days ago):
“Thank you for the compliment — I’ve always been grounded, never indoctrinated, trusting my instinct and intuition, valuing my work enough to have a lawyer review every contract in New York, and handling every deal from a place of value and clarity, safeguarding both my work and its worth.”

@Roham (6 days ago):
“4:30 sounds like you needed children ;) bitcoin is a close second 😀”

@monikabravoiamoptimist (6 days ago):
“Easy to name my needs when you’ve never lived my days. No regrets here.”

@mikemilleratlanta1 (6 days ago):
“I liked it! But... going without at least catastrophic health insurance is bad advice!”

@monikabravoiamoptimist (5 days ago):
“I never relied on Western medicine, though I studied alternative medicine, TCM, and homeopathy. I am deeply aligned with my inner authority, which is why I trust my body and understand how it works. For me, this is what authenticity means — so following that lead wouldn’t align with my principles.”

🕑 TIMESTAMPS (will jump to the Youtube Video)

00:00 - Bitcoin: A State of Consciousness 02:43 - The Impact of Fiat on Authenticity 04:15 - The Journey to Understanding Money 07:02 - Escaping the Rat Race 09:57 - Finding Clarity Amidst Noise 12:40 - The Role of Freedom and Choice 15:37 - Confronting Fear and Evolving 18:42 - The Awakening of Awareness 21:47 - The Power of Personal Accountability 24:34 - The Intersection of Money and Free Will 27:35 - The Logic Behind Bitcoin 30:53 - Austrian Economics and Human Action 33:30 - The Synthesis of Logic and Intuition 36:27 - Conscious Spending and Value 39:22 - The Language of Bitcoin 41:48 - The Journey into Bitcoin Living 45:45 - Building Community Through Bitcoin 50:08 - Dimensions of Awareness and Bitcoin 01:02:32 - Bitcoin as a Catalyst for Change 01:09:04 - Empowering Millennials with Bitcoin 01:16:59 - Optimism as a Core Belief

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In this episode, I share how astrology, human design, value, creativity, health, and Bitcoin weave together in my work and life. I present astrology as a precise, mathematical language rooted in Greek archetypes and geometry, offering a framework for self-awareness and growth rather than a belief system. I explain how evolutionary astrology, especially Pluto’s placement, reveals the soul’s evolutionary purpose, and how life challenges can serve as catalysts for transformation.

We explore the connection between Taurus (self-worth, survival) and Scorpio/Pluto (deep transformation), showing how understanding personal and financial value frees creative potential. I recount my own journey from an artist with high time preference to a Bitcoin maximalist, connecting sound money and Austrian economics to autonomy, low time preference, and holistic well-being.

Throughout the conversation, I emphasize courage, authenticity, and questioning narratives as essential to sovereignty—integrating astrology, personal responsibility, and financial literacy as practical tools for living in alignment.

Selected Quotes with Timestamps

1. On Astrology as a Language — (00:05:36 – 00:05:47)

“If people say, I don't believe in astrology, I always say, it’s not a belief system. It’s like saying, I don’t believe in French. You can say, I don’t speak French. You can learn the language and then you understand. Astrology is the same—it’s a language of archetypes, patterns, and relationships.”

2. On Growth and Challenge — (00:14:28 – 00:14:46)

“We only change when there’s a change of direction. Hard times, confrontations—those are the breaks that create evolution. When you don’t take things personally but see them as opportunities, astrology becomes a practical tool for growth.”

3. On Value and Creativity — (00:32:02 – 00:32:11)

“You cannot be creative if you’re in survival mode. In order to create, your needs must be met. Value is subjective, and meeting your own needs is essential to progress.”

4. On Bitcoin and Scarcity — (00:41:39 – 00:42:17)

“Understanding scarcity from the point of view of value is the most important thing. Your most valuable asset is your time—and it’s scarce because you don’t know when you’re going to die. Bitcoin made sense to me because it mirrors that principle.”

5. On Sovereignty and Responsibility — (00:51:37 – 00:51:53)

“If you don’t ask questions, you’ve already submitted to whatever they told you. Question authority. Question everything. Trust your gut. There’s a balance between skepticism and action.”

enjoy!

I’ve added a new section to my site: Monika in Dialogue — a space where I share transmissions that arrive when I get invited to speak. Topics include evolutionary astrology, Bitcoin, Human Design, art, value, perception, creativity, curiosity, consciousness, human action, and whatever else asks to be voiced.

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Kyle Huber

Satoshi gifted us Bitcoin so we could bring our gifts to the world. Episodes feature host Kyle Huber and guests discussing bitcoin, entrepreneurship, fitness, and a broad range of topics and ideas, all. I joined Kyle back in April, while I was installing Arcana, at the IEB University of Washington in Seattle. A fellow Bitcoiner, filmmaker, and friend—we had a great conversation.

Here are the timestamps (they link to his YouTube channel and are also helpful for the video above):

Introduction and Monika's Background [00:00]

The Process of Individuation [5:10]

From Artist to Bitcoiner to Free Human [12:34]

The Layers to Understanding Bitcoin [17:23]

How to Know if You're Being Authentic? [20:22]

Finances as an Artist [26:02]

The Power of Critical Thinking [35:00]

A Major Astrological Transition [49:59]

What Do YOU Bring to the World? [1:05:13]

Prometheus Story [1:16:56]

Saylor's Chart [1:23:02]

Achievement vs. Purpose [1:28:49]

Why Bitcoiners Want to Spread the Love [1:37:31]

Systems for Harnessing Creativity [1:44:59]

Public Art Projects [1:51:03]

Critiques of Modernism and Contemporary Art [1:55:35]

Do You Want to be an Artist or Be Free? [2:04:10]

Letting Go of Traumas [2:08:45]

Evolving Through Relationships [2:20:11]

Why Adaptability Matters [2:25:41]

Quesiton on the 2nd Coming of Christ [2:32:00]

Synchronicities and Alignment [2:41:14]

Polymatheia [2:51:48]

I’ve added a new section to my site: Monika in Dialogue — a space where I share transmissions that arrive when I get invited to speak. Topics include evolutionary astrology, Bitcoin, Human Design, art, value, perception, creativity, curiosity, consciousness, human action, and whatever else asks to be voiced.

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I’ve added a new section to my site: Monika in Dialogue — a space where I share transmissions that arrive when I get invited to speak. Topics include evolutionary astrology, Bitcoin, Human Design, art, value, perception, creativity, curiosity, consciousness, and whatever else asks to be voiced.

The following dialogue was recorded some time ago.

From Claire’s post:

Joining our host, Claire, is Monika Bravo—a visionary multidisciplinary artist, evolutionary astrologer, and true polymath whose work explores the intersections of consciousness, time, space, perception, and pattern. From immersive installations to planetary transits, Monika brings a rare fusion of intellect, intuition, and creative expression to everything she does. In today’s conversation, we’ll explore her artistic journey, what Bitcoin might become, and also reveal, when viewed through an evolutionary lens, and how cosmological wisdom can guide us through personal and collective transformation. So whether you’re here for the financial edge, the esoteric downloads, or the art of self-sovereignty—get ready to expand your mind.

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